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Was a much more dignified proceeding. and they had rules. one of the first rules in the senate is you have to take a pledge before you open the trial to be impartial, serve as a judge who is impartial. you didn't have such a rule in the house. and beyond that, in the senate, you have to -- you can change the rules with four votes, but to actually impeach the president, you need 67. and so there is a big, big difference. the rules can be changed much more easily. and the murkowski comments opened the question are there republicans who will think that in order to be impartial, you have to have a...

And beyond that, in the senate, you have to -- you can change the rules with four votes, but to actually impeach the president, you need 67. and so there is a big, big difference. the rules can be changed much more easily. and the murkowski comments opened the question are there republicans who will think that in order to be impartial, you have to have a level playing field, and that means that if you're going to have what they consider a fair trial -- those are code words for witnesses and documents. are those republicans willing to go that far? we don't know yet, but the murkowski comments h...