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By a private arbitrator. that ruling came last month. but daniels' attorneys say the president has won nothing and ultimately the arbitration ruling could prove to be, well, frankly, unenforceable because the president didn't sign the nondisclosure agreement. it's an interesting story and one the white house would love to steer clear of. >> dana: they have another topic on their hands, and that's the tariff. do you think they'll go forward and that canada and mexico might be exempt? >> reporter: they're going to go forward, no doubt about that. we expect to hear about that raoeu around 3:30. i...

Other trade negotiations here. i believe it's usda. our responsibility if they grow it, we are selling it. >> they are pro-nafta, you want to see changes. you told the president don't rip it up. >> no, nafta needs to be modernized like anything 25 years ago. we think it would be bad policy if we withdrew. >> you told the president that? >> yes. >> >> um. >>um. brian: mr. secretary, who is the president you know? is he a guy who listens to what you are saying? >> absolutely. this president is a bold, decisive, focused decision maker but he also leaves a little door open in the back for his mind...