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Administrations, but particularly at the pentagon where the pentagon is -- the pentagon -- the american military is one of the most integrated places in the institutions in the american country, in the country. but that's at the enlisted level. when you're looking at the ground. when you get up to officers, it's very much still a bastion of white. and colin powell broke that. and african americans who are in the military today look at him as sort of instill in -- still in awe. i remember just recently an army warrant officer telling me about how she views colin powell. there's this hallway in ...

Editor’s Note: On Nov. 14, 2005, Variety published the following interview with Mort...

And the afghanistan situation is much same. as general milley said, the blame is across four presidents, ten secretaries, maybe as many commanders and chiefs of the joint staff, but reality is it's a policy decision. now, i think what the military can be faulted for is the rosy picture over the years that has been a painted by a series of general officers going to the hill saying, well, we're making progress. well, the reality is behind the scenes those of us that have been reading those reports know that that's not true. and i think too often our generals become politicized when hay -- they m...

>> you write in a great piece about a call you had as the attacks were happening. you got a call from the pentagon, from the e-ring to check on you. >> yes. >> you had to check on the person that called you. we were all checking on someone. will you talk about that call? >> yes. i had -- as i mentioned, i had worked at the pentagon eight months before and got a frantic call from fern who was my assistant mary. and are you okay? are you okay? i said, mary, i'm fine. this is in midtown. i'm in downtown. i glanced at a tv and saw smoke billowing from the e-ring of the pentagon where she worked. f...

And all kinds of calls like that. i remember i had to connect to my parents 70 miles north of here and talk to a friend in alabama who put us together on the phone because the phone leans were tied up that day. >> that i remember. the e-ring suffered its partial collapse at 10:15 a.m. there's the flag draped exterior of the e-ring for people that don't speak pentagon. there's concentric circumstance -- circles out from the court yard. >> that office on the fourth floor of that building is the office of the general counsel to the commandant of the marine corps. i know that person. his office wa...