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Of money it costs. >> that is exactly the wrong question. when we let refugees into this country, they don't become welfare. they become part of the major -- >> not true. >> steve jobs is -- >> no, they don't. they don't assimilate. people that want to come here. >> i let you finish. 40% of the fortune 500 companies are immigrants or sons and daughters of those immigrant. this is major crisis that we helped create. we're helping to solve it. >> if you're wrong, americans can die. >> i'm not wrong. and you're focusing on the wrong issue. >> if i'm wrong. no, i like my focus. my focus is the rig...

Is a broader global crisis. >> we do have to be careful with this. and we should have a warm and welcoming heart, but we also just can't accept the whole world to come here either. >> the united states honestly, sadly, cannot relax our entrance criteria. we're having to be very careful about who we let enter this country. >> i don't know see how we can lead the free world and turn our back on people who are seeking it. we should take the statue of liberty and tear it down. >> joining us with reaction is former adviser for the clinton administration, ambassador nancy sodenberg and andrea tantar...