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Detained, the number of beds is the issue. that, of course, requires an appropriation, it require as policy decision. democrats say fewer beds would mean those would be focused on the most serious offenders. people with a criminal background deported and not on those who are otherwise lawful, perhaps migrant families as an example, as a way to show this difference. the white house is not taking that well. they're saying that would limit their ability to deal with those who could be violent offenders or a danger and that gets the national security piece. a policy divide that looks hard to match...

Would this still be owned by donald trump the way he said it at that meeting with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi a couple months ago saying, i will own this shutdown? >> the president appears to be the only man in washington who doesn't think he would get the blame for the next shutdown. which is kind of remarkable. he's a man with one political playbook. he runs it over and over again which is appeal to his base. double down on his positions. it worked in the primary, in the general election, worked to keep congressional republicans in line. he keeps going back to run the same play again, now...

Something she'll try to do. both bring in the progressive base and not alienating anyone who doesn't like what they see in president trump and looking for someone new to carry their mantle. >> everyone that earned a hot drink it's you. you and the crew, thank you for sticking through that event. stick around. a lot more to break down this hour. coming up, shutdown actually part ii, to be exact. the trump administration hinting another shutdown is possible, if an agreement isn't met on border security funding by friday. this all coming as the president heads to el paso, texas, for a rally t...

Poll, leapfrogged over the other female candidates there and is running only behind bernie sanders and one other male candidate. she does have sort of that home-grown grit. however, that was before these stories were published, all from democrat staffers, by the way. this isn't a republican hit job. and. does, i think, get verified by these other stories in politico and "huffington post" as well as a non-political tracking service which actually tracks the congress' staff movements and they said that the senator had the highest turnover rate of any senator from 2001 to 2016. so i think there's...

Immigration and continuing resolutions are probably where we'll go. >> to that point, is continuing, a continuing resolution, excuse me, is that the way to go until this issue gets hammered out? >> yeah. you'd think this president would want to keep the government open given the political price he paid last time, and i say this. the price that an awful lot of hard working american paid last time when the government shut down. it's nothing somebody particularly eager to go back topthere are deals to be had. let the operators hash it ut 0 and the white house say we'll be okay with whatever comes...