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Wrote articles for the "times" that helped convince the nation war in iraq was justified was bad information from the intel community. not lies from an evil administration bent on war. her new book is called the story, a reporter's journey, out today. judith miller, fox news contributor joins me now. great to see you. >> great to see you. >> boy, did they turn on you. they would have us believe that you would want to put us at war, lies spoon-fed you from the bush administration. you say it's not so? >> it's not so. i wish that i was spoon-fed anything. in fact i got my stories the old-fashion...

Senior security correspondent at "the daily beast" and author of the book "at war" and david, author of "national insecurity: american leadership in an age of fear." shane on that point that richard was just talking about, i found the pushback from the cia very interesting because what they do want to talk about is this context of what the atmosphere was like after 9/11. they also want to talk about whether or not we actually got actionable intelligence from the techniques. but i don't see a lot of pushback on the actual specific, gruesome details that we get in this report. as an example, you...

We are learning details about bowe bergdahl. the washington post obtained his handwritten journal and other writings. the associated press found his facebook page. both show a young man who wrote about a struggle to maintain a kind of mental equilibrium. clearly, what was going on in his life and going on at war was disturbing to him and we also learned that before joining the army he was discharged from the coast guard uncharacterized, but discharged from the coast guard and they would not confirm whether it was related to any psychological reasons. did these details bring up any larger issue...

The invasion of iraq i think is still with us and lingers. >> it's overwhelming. >> it is overwhelming and the fact that case was so flawed, so false, and the american people have become so cynical about any case for war in that region or case for action, because this is not iraq. let's be honest. this is a lot more like the case like kosovo in the 1990s than iraq. however, the distorting effect of iraq and the dampening effect it's had on americans since adventurism and not want to go get involved in these conflicts is overwhelming. and i think this was always going to be a hard sell. as was ...

And i reflected today on bill keller's column in the "new york times," our new isolationism. that frankly, people are more concerned about domestic issues than they are the implications of foreign policy. >> i think you're right about that. frankly, i am hearing it from many more quarters than we've ever heard it before. you've got people on the right and the left talking about what we need to do here domestically. they're looking at the calamity unfolding on the streets of our cities today. they're looking at our unemployment rate. they're looking at, you know, needing jobs, needing meaningfu...