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Felt by the end she held her own and although, i don't think everything she said was likely to be entirely accurate given her age and experience of dealing with these things, i did find quite a credible witness. >> right, and i think that was part of the problem for the defense because this went on for so long and the longer it went on, the more people began to observe exactly what you were saying, is that here you had a man that is an expert at talking to witnesses. here you have a young lady that probably never had to testify in the national spotlight before and she did seem to hold up. did ...

To keep bringing that out. >> right. >> and bringing it home to the jury and repeating it and because it ties into their theory that maybe he was the one who began the assault on george zimmerman. >> vinnie paulson, what do you make of it? it does as natalee jackson said, comes down to two key things. one is was george zimmerman following trayvon martin against the instructions of authorities? we know from the tape he was told not to do that and did he start the confrontation, the altercation with trayvon martin or not? if both those things are true and i'll verify it to be true as this trial ...

She's an attorney for trayvon martin's family. natalee, welcome back to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> fascinating day and really about this young lady rachel. you know her better than i do and most people. tell me about her. what kind of woman is she? >> well, actually, i've only met her once but i'll tell you this is a person that did not want to testify. she didn't want to talk to sybrina fulton about this case, and she certainly didn't want to talk to police officers about this case. i think we have to put her into context, piers. she's 19 years old. she heard her friend die. she he...

Because it ties into their theory that maybe he was the one who began the assault on george zimmerman. >> vinnie paulson, what do you make of it? it does as natalee jackson said, comes down to two key things. one is was george zimmerman following trayvon martin against the instructions of authorities? we know from the tape he was told not to do that and did he start the confrontation, the altercation with trayvon martin or not? if both those things are true and i'll verify it to be true as this trial continues, very hard to see how he can successfully argue self-defense. >> yes, but here is th...

To be entirely accurate given her age and experience of dealing with these things, i did find quite a credible witness. >> right, and i think that was part of the problem for the defense because this went on for so long and the longer it went on, the more people began to observe exactly what you were saying, is that here you had a man that is an expert at talking to witnesses. here you have a young lady that probably never had to testify in the national spotlight before and she did seem to hold up. did she speak the way most people would speak? no, she didn't use the king's english or anything...