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From that trial, it was the real discussion about how race played a part in it. many people were allowed to ignore race. they wanted to ignore racial implications of why george zimmerman thought trayvon was suspicious and why he thought was a okay to follow trayvon with a gun and provoke him and why the jury felt it was okay after george zimmerman does that that try von did not have a right to defend himself. we won't second guess the jury, the jury has spoken but america has to deal with those questions. >> natalee jackson, thank you. >> thank you, piers. i want to turn to reverend liz walk...

Discussion about how race played a part in it. many people were allowed to ignore race. they wanted to ignore racial implications of why george zimmerman thought trayvon was suspicious and why he thought was a okay to follow trayvon with a gun and provoke him and why the jury felt it was okay after george zimmerman does that that try von did not have a right to defend himself. we won't second guess the jury, the jury has spoken but america has to deal with those questions. >> natalee jackson, thank you. >> thank you, piers. i want to turn to reverend liz walker. have a lot to say about the z...

Dropped the ball in that regard and they should have had more people talking about the human being trayvon was? >> no, i won't criticize the prosecution. you know, i think the problem -- if you ask me one thing missing from that trial, it was the real discussion about how race played a part in it. many people were allowed to ignore race. they wanted to ignore racial implications of why george zimmerman thought trayvon was suspicious and why he thought was a okay to follow trayvon with a gun and provoke him and why the jury felt it was okay after george zimmerman does that that try von did not ...

>> let me turn to natalee jackson because you've been in court. you've heard all this evidence. i mean, there clearly is going to be a lot of contention over whether the case for second-degree murder has been proven. however, many people believe that there is a much more compelling argument for manslaughter or aggravated assault. could you see a situation where george zimmerman is convicted of one of those lesser charges, and would that be satisfactory if you couldn't get a murder charge against him? >> well, what is satisfactory is what the jury decides. we don't have a choice in that, we don...

Because it was more likely that you could then get a lesser conviction of manslaughter. is there any merit to that oo argument? >> i think there is no merit. we heard the star witnesses would be good or jeantel. zimmerman gave five statements. he's the star witness of this case. listen to the non-emergency call he made where by his own admission he categorized trayvon in the group of these a-holes and f-ing punks and trayvon martin was running away from him and he got out of the call to follow. that's enough to show he was the aggressor here. >> natalee jackson, thank you for joining me. >> th...