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Overtime.ye it. >> laura: talking real d welfar? social security? , medicare? >> all programs. cash programs, med aid, health insurance for the poor, food stamps, public housing looking at all of that, 51% of the immigrants households in the united states for 20 years access that program. it is about 30% for the native born. that is really a problem. it isn't just a problem for new immigrants. that's been getting worse. it is a problem overall, including for the well established. >> laura: you can respond, last word. >> going back to your point about the facts. the u.s. department of agricultu...

No we get all of that. we're entitled by law, but we're trying to have a conservative based in facts. >> okay, sure. >> laura: what we hear on immigration, and i hear what you're saying. but when we talk about immigration, a lot of people get the sense that all new immigrants coming to the united states will be the valedictorians of their class or rescuing cats from trees or coming up with the cure to cancer. maybe some will. that's fantastic. overall, we have to make some vehard choices. we only have a certain, a limited budget. we have a lot of obligations to our elderly, to our sick and poo...

Migrant is that paradigm up by your boot straps and pull yourself ahead through hard work. there are plenty of americans, native born who fall into a criminal path and there are migrants as well. but as i said in the article, we know from statistics, from the justice department, that they represent a significant minority and so therefore, i found that it was and it continues to be anti-american. to demonize my dwrants as the scapegoats for people who are legitimately agrefd because of globalized economy may have passed them by in their factory town. >> were there moments, thinking like the tra...

Church spent the better part of a year waiting for a visa. he spent 20 years in the british army. they didn't want any more scottish anglicans in this vt country. [laughter] all of congress is arguing how a we can keep people who snuck in here illegally. you are a bigot if you are not for people coming illegally. the key argument has always been immigrants are better than we are. isn't that the argument you hear every day? they commit fewer crimes and work harder.n'um they are just better people. how dare you complain about them. now that we know these crime rates are way higher thann they are...

Barack obama, maybe, or bill and hillary clinton, but all of them were silent, and allowed the race baiting to continue in virginia, and it did. this is an ominous development in american politics, precisely because it worked so well. democrats across the country inevitably will imitate what just happened in virginia and they will probably win a bunch of races as a result. you would think they would care about the consequences of sowing racial division in an already racially divided country, but they care about winning more. northam's victory tells you a lot about the democrat strategy going f...