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He would consider a no-fly zone to be participation in a conflict. that would mean, nato versus russia. with us tonight to discuss, he's a 30 year navy iterant who retired with four stars on his shoulders. he's the former head of the u.s. southern command and former supreme allied commander of nato. his new book is 2034. a novel of the next world war. now on paperback. admiral, i'm so glad you are with us, because it's frustrating. you walk in line to get coffee and you hear people saying, don't we care? why don't we just go with the no-fly zone? can you explain for us would have tons if a no-...

He would consider a no-fly zone to be participation in a conflict. that would mean, nato versus russia. with us tonight to discuss, he's a 30 year navy iterant who retired with four stars on his shoulders. he's the former head of the u. s. southern command and former supreme allied commander of nato. his new book is 2034. a novel of the next world war. now on paperback. admiral, i'm so glad you are with us, because it's frustrating. you walk in line to get coffee and you hear people saying, don't we care? why don't we just go with the no-fly zone? can you explain for us would have tons if a no...