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denigrate government any chance it gets. >> there was an interesting piece today, amanda, in "the washington post." nay daina milbank. the headline kwuz "debauchery: an american special ti." kind of chung in cheek. dana wrote in land of paris hilton, lindsay lohan and snooki, debauchery is an american specialty. i suppose the question is are any of us necessarily surprised that this happened, you know, and i guess getting to the point i was just talking to the congressman about, you wonder if it is a couple of individuals who got out of control or if it was a more systemic problem. >> well, the gsa itself has had problems for quite a while. i mean, dating back to the bush administration, there were charges of politicalization, favoritism, out of control spending. it's clear hi something within that agency that needs to be changed. but david is right. this unfairly demonizes many federal workers who have been working very hard and have been already demonized by republicans saying we need to cut government