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Privilege on a secretly recorded conversation between trump and longtime fixer michael cohen. that means the fbi can now access the recording as part of an investigation into trump's former lawyer. on that particular tape, reportedly heard discussing a payment to a former playboy model. joining me right now from cle d cleveland, avery friedman. and from new orleans, today, richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor. good to see you both. >> good to see you, fred. >> richard, you first, do you think the president's attorney would waive privilege? >> listen, if barbar...

There has been more attention paid to the actual moon, than the millions of souls locked inside our very own prisons. the ugliness of mass incarceration, the gruesome cle d you thin the week we're going to tal about. you think about what is important and what is not getting talked about, particularly in the campaign season, who isn't being represented or whose voices aren't being heard and you have to find a way to talk about it. there's never going to be a hook for the fact that we just continue to warehouse millions of people in america's prisons.