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Community assessment, we had nothing in there about any collusion. and as i've said before, at the time i left on january 20th of 2016, i didn't see any direct evidence of collusion. and i really can't comment on what's been turned up, if anything, since then. so i guess i don't know. i guess i could argue that as a candidate trump, when he exhorted the russians to go find hillary clinton's 30,000 e-mails or praised wikileaks, which cia director pompeo was aptly called a hostile non-nation state intelligence service, i guess that is a form of collusion. i think collusion is kind of a nebulous ...

2016, i didn't see any direct evidence of collusion. and i really can't comment on what's been turned up, if anything, since then. so i guess i don't know. i guess i could argue that as a candidate trump, when he exhorted the russians to go find hillary clinton's 30,000 e-mails or praised wikileaks, which cia director pompeo was aptly called a hostile non-nation state intelligence service, i guess that is a form of collusion. i think collusion is kind of a nebulous term. and it doesn't have any real legal implications. >> i want you to respond to this. this is congressman chris stewart, who is...

Otherwise nebulous term. you don't have a smoking gun but you have an a directive to undertake an investigation about why there may be a motive that somebody could be susceptible to undue influence by a foreign nation. >> we need to take a break. we'll be right back. unconventional, unexpected nudes. liquid matte formula. up to 16 hour wear. go un-nude with attitude. maybelline's matte ink un-nude. only from maybelline new york.

We mean conspiracy. either conspiracy to hack people's computers or conspiracy with the russians to get benefit and aid from the russians in some way in the election, or conspiracy to defraud the united states. i don't consider those nebulous. they're pretty discreet statutes. >> wasn't there a conspiracy to defraud the united states in the documents today? wasn't that one of the charges? >> yeah, but it has nothing to do -- it has absolutely nothing to do with the election. that's what's called a kline conspiracy. it's part of -- >> solomon, with all due respect, the mueller investigation is ...

>> that word will continue to be thrown around, because the conduct is what you believe treason to be. however, in legal terms, it's a very specific context, and one requirement is we actually have to be at war with the people who we're giving information to or sharing information with. and a geopolitical rival that may be russia not one we're at war with in actuality. so the word treason has legal connotation. but words like espionage, words like campaign finance violations, et cetera, those are more apropos in this context of what we know right now. given the last couple days, you can't rule...