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Of the process. the impeachment process in the house. it will be decided whether or not through the courts whether they can testify, and perhaps they will be key witnesses when it gets over to the senate? >> you know, i think that's right. i would simply say this. we know that this is a president who does not want to be impeached notwithstanding all of his bluster. be sure if any of the witnesses, bolton, mulvaney, pompeo, perry, had information would exonerate the president, you sure as heck believe the president would put them out there. he put out the transcript of the july 25th phone call ...

Out in the courts for several months. it's worth noting there's a case of an, an unrelated case in district court here on d.c. monday may rule whether don mcgahn, former white house counsel works have to testify as part of testimony about the mueller investigation that the judiciary committee is seeking and could impact on all this as well. i think it's important to understand what we've seen over the last two weeks which is every defense that the republicans came in with, whether no quid pro quo, no firsthand knowledge, ukrainians didn't know, basically shredded to pieces by the witnesses. so...