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>> julie: it was over the mueller investigation. >> capri: the white house declined to be engaged in the house judiciary committee which they were able to do and they basically walked away. >> katie: that's an issue of separation of power. because they are separate branches of government, the executive branch has the ability to say no. they have the right -- >> capri: that also looks shady. the american people also see that, by invokin executive priv, why not just let everybody talk? >> griff: the entire impeachment inquiry didn't move the needle, we haven't seen that with the american people....

About red flag laws, those issues are on the table. they are trying right now to do a dance between democrats and republicans to figure out something that can pass the senate and that the president is only going to get behind something that there's a sense has enough bipartisan support that could pass the senate and that's what the need needle they're trying to thread right now. >> hold on. but mitch mcconnell said it is about where the president stands and where he would go. the president is now saying it is basically about where mitch mcconnell and the senate stands. is this both sides passi...

Some of the rest of the world is that. taking his ball and going home from denmark is that. you don't want to give us greenland? we're not doing that. immigration has always been at the root of this base politic. first speech he ever gave, rapists and krlgs, build that wall. this is fundamental to who he believes he is and how he believes he animates his base. now, i continue to remind people donald trump won by 70,000 votes in three states. michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. he loses the overall popular vote by almost 3 million. he tleded a needle. to his credit, he tleded a need needle. to r...

Need needle so far ahead. in the stormy daniels case, could be a different story. it does lay the foundation this is an exchange that happens often times. >> now that the expert says trump says i'll pay in cash. his attorney, rudy giuliani, has a statement. he says duelling experts can come to different conclusions. using cash would make no sense because the transaction is between two corporations. what's your response to that? >> i think we're being very myopic in the way we're looking at this tape as being the most important thing that's going on right now. i think that two experts could hav...