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He is innocent until proven guilty, although it does not look good for him, they have to go on and thread the needle saying, we're going give him the benefit of the doubt at this time, and if he is the party's nominee, i will support him. >> i don't think it was about just threading the needle here, it was about the fear of donald j. trump. they fear his base and him and that's why they didn't have the courage. and desantis didn't distinguish himself. he was the main one looking around to see who else is going to support donald trump. he's scared of him just like most of them. >> if they were ...

But more importantly the hispanic people across the country, but also how it resonates with us around america. the white female vote is a very sensitive voting bloc. while the subject may not be jermaine to them directly, they watch how people respond, and that also drives those numbers. >> that's a judgment of values, many people a judgment of religious believes. daniel, let me play to you donald trump talking to bill o'reilly threading this needle saying without much evidence, well, the refugees, what if they're involved in isis. the evidence isn't that the people fleeing are isis war years,...