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were, you know, put in exile. that's what they'll have to get to. you'll have the folks. >> mary miller just -- >> miller. let's wait and see, chip roy and if you have scott perry voting yes, you'll have the serious people will now come over to kevin and then you'll have the kind of the clown show for lack of a better phrase, right? the people who are just -- they're just here for theater, right? if those are the folks still outstanding mccarthy will win. >> that's i think the key point. >> that was mary miller. >> mary miller who had previously been part of the bloc of 20 just flipp...

The magic number of whatever the majority of the current numbers of individuals on the house is right now, is it possible to get these hold-outs? >> is it possible to get rosendale and gaetz and gosar? are they even gettable? >> i think some of them probably aren't. i sent a text saying this is cause for celebration, this is cause for excitement but we haven't won anything yet. nobody spiked the football. keep working with people. keep building those relationships because we have to continue to move forward. >> all right. congressman kelly armstrong. don't be a stranger. we love talking to you...

Leaving the station, you got to get on board now or never and that is kind of a different conversation than the one we were having here around this table late last night where they were talking about potentially kicking this past the weekend because they just couldn't see an outcome if looks like 431, right? >> yeah. >> i'm told there is one democratic absence, congressman david trone is not here. >> 433. >> that brings the standard down. >> ken buck is gone so 432 although he may be coming back today. >> ralph norman said he was going to plan to vote for diastasis donalds. and john making the...

Catastrophe. you have seven people, we had 20, maybe 10, now 7 who are willing to take us to the brink for three days, there is a very real question that david is putting on the table in terms of what is actually in this deal and we know that there are at least seven people who are perfectly willing to take us to -- david, let me finish, who are perfectly willing to let us go to the very brink of destruction, again, as you said, only for their own gain. >> a lot of people think we are on the brink of destruction and catastrophe with the debt limit spending, runaway spending and continue to rai...

Now? what is happening with -- i think it was david urban who said this and this is just my experience in covering the hill, this is dead on, i mean, look at the conversation you're seeing right now. i don't know how hard they're trying -- >> there's rosendale on the left from montana. >> it is very likely that it is the flippers, today, the 14 flippers who are the ones on the front lines working those who are still hold-outs like rosendale who we're seeing right there in the red tie. i mean, you're seeing -- you're seeing arm twisting in action right there. that moment, that's exactly what we...