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There's still six people who aren't voting for him and clowns or not, their votes count the same on the floor. that really -- the calling out of this group is has been the question and now does the pressure or anything else move matt gaetz and his contention? i don't know the answer yet but at least we -- >> we'll know the names. these are the hold-outs who aren't going, right? before it was a morpheus group. >> who was that? [ applause ] >> let's bring in manu raju again. manu, who was it that just flipped? manu? you're on the air. who was it -- was it norman? >> reporter: yeah. >> norman is ...

Representatives, which i'm told a democratic congressman just told me he had a medical appointment. now he's back and that lifts -- >> they don't need to get four. they only -- there's seven hold-outs, minus three is four. >> no, what i'm -- >> because the denominator is changed. >> if trone comes back and i'm told he's back that means mccarthy needs 217 vote, not 216 and that means he needs to pick up four of these seven rebels. four. >> so one of my sources predicts that there will only be three hold-outs in the end and that will be matt gaetz, boebert and good. >> and the image we were just...

Of the biden administration. they are the most interested in getting the investigatory process rolling. what i expect to happen on the floor next is for the clerk to read the tally, them roll into another vote and i think the next nominating speech for mccarthy is going to be given by congressman jamie comer of kentucky's first district. he will be one of the most famous members because he will be the chairman of the house oversight committee and be the tip of the spear an all these investigations. here's what's true. as long as this is going on, that committee doesn't exist and the oversight ...

Offer them. >> those two -- >> i agree. the fact that he's even having that conversation as the vote is open, i mean, look at him. look at -- that is mchenry, right. >> it's not just pat africa -- pat mchenry, crane, rosendale, going after eli crane who maybe could be gettable. >> mccarthy helped get him elected. >> the congressional leadership put a lot of money into ads for him but the conversation is they don't trust him and believe that they are the ones who are standing in the way of this and that that is ultimately their end goal. >> is anybody know how to read lips? >> how have we not h...

>> some of the votes that we just have seen today. >> delivered his people. >> chip roy articulated his -- he was serious about this the entire time. he said these are the things i'd like to see happen. if we get those done i will vote for kevin. >> scott, your point about rosendale is that he's looking for some leverage in that primary and he thinks he can rally the right wing base by being on the island. >> yes, he thinks there's room to run in that flank of the party that is just tear down all leadership and zinke is betting on being someone -- >> a challenge for the republican party. >> we...