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that s troubling if that is indeed the case. neil: and we don t know whether that s the case, but what mark esper was telling us, there was an easy time you could have shot down the balloon, they call it a weather balloon, more than gathering temperatures for people, but this is a shot right now over the skies of north carolina, you guessed it, by the map and the map of the united states, that s the last stop before you get to the atlantic ocean and then, what happens is anyone s guess. a lot of people say we shoot it down to see what the technology because lost in the sauce is how big this thing is typically six times of a traditional weather balloon and that it s gone very, very far. some say propelled by wind, others say by things far more advanced which is why some want to take at that look at it. we ll be exploring that with among others, chuck hagel, the former secretary, and mark green, he ll weigh in and many, many more. we re not done with this issue. the impac ....
well, officials have told fox news s jennifer griffin that shooting down the balloon is on the table and risk of heavy debris and civilians was why the president was advised against doing so and now it s more populated territory, and then headed over the ocean. a water takedown is a possibility and we re told they have been tracking the balloon for days now and briefed on the matter, and so far has not commented publicly on the matter. and republican says the president needs to express stress. president biden needs to stand up and say unequivocally it s not okay to violate the sovereign territory of the united states and he s failed to do that time and time again, that s what we need our national policy makers to do. officials confirming a second chinese surveillance balloon spotted over latin america. it s not believed that this one will enter into u.s. air space for the one that has, china denies it, of course. ....