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Answer this hostage diplomacy situation and resolve it as quickly as possible. so, i would ask president biden to productively discuss and resolve this issue with his russian counterparts. >> reporter: yeah, i think that paul whelan believes he's very much a sort of negotiating chip for the russians to return back some russian prisoners that are in american jails. the problem has always been that the russians in american jails are really high-level criminals. one of them is a convicted cocaine smuggler, conspiracy to smuggle cocaine into the u.s. the other within is the world's most notorious ...

States. they've already got high taxes. new york, connecticut, california. it doesn't hurt republicans per se. maybe, just maybe, that could be a negotiating chip as republicans want to do another tax cut into the election. imagine if president trump say to the american public to come up either way, look at tax cuts, the market is at an all-time high. we want to do it again, and this time we will put the onus on households. that puts democrats in the corner from negotiating point of view. >> neil: do you think usmca, progress on china, are you in the camp that says there is no meltdown that co...

Potent negotiating chip of their own and can essentially say to the brits, look. you give us back our tanker. we'll give you back yours. >> do you think it's going to be effective? >> i think it could well be effective. the british have already said they don't want this to be a military confrontation. they want to settle it by diplomatic means. that's what they want of course. britain is going through a political crisis of its own at the moment, a change of prime minister imminent. the brexit crisis pending. the last thing they want is to be drawn into a conflict with the islamic republic of i...

British authorities earlier this month. they've vowed to retaliate and have done that and made a big show of it as well by releasing those images on iranian state television showing the fast attack craft, the revolutionary guard surrounding the tanker and also for images of what appear to be iranian special forces lowering themselves from a helicopter hovering above the ship by rope on to the deck of the tanker to take control of it. also the language the iranians have used very much mirrors the kind of language that has been used by british officials when they seized the iranian tanker saying...

Quote, serious consequences for the capture of the british flag tanker in the critical middle east oil shipping zone. joining us now to discuss former pentagon and state department spokesman, retired rear admiral john kirby and senior international correspondent matthew chance from abu dhabi. by posting that video of the taking of the tanker it seems brazen. what is iran -- what does iran have to gain from this? >> reporter: well, a couple things. first, by posting the video they are using the same methods the british used to seize an iranian oil tanker earlier this month off the coast of jib ...