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i can't stand. is that okay, tony? can i sit? [gunfire] is. >> jesse: no one ever wants to meet a mobster. some people would feel safer in prison than out on the street people like bernie madoff no relation to. lost $65 billion of other people's money in a ponzi scheme. it wasn't just joe schmo's money that bernie stole. a new netflix documentary says bernie madoff was taking millions of dollars in from criminals. federal reserve drug cartels tr. and when they all came knocking on bernie's door to have it back, he didn't have it. instead of paying up, the documentary says madoff pled...

Madoff? yes. thanks for having me on jesse, first off. fundamentally they both built tremendous trust. bernie through the jewish community, and the regulators. and sbf basically paid for politicians $73 million, 92% of it went to democrats. and also he had on his payroll ftxfc commodity futures commission he was paying money to. they exploited that trust. bitcoin in general is a confidence game which is a nice word for con game. >> jesse: so, if you have criminals, mobsters, russian mobsters, cartels, saying bernie, you're dead. you're basically a dead man so, he goes prison, takes the wrap, p...

Victory. >> reporter: oh, absolutely. one of the people that was there greeting victor bout along be with his mother and wife was a russian parliamentarian. she said this is a capitulation by the united states, an acknowledgment that so far russia doesn't leave people behind and this is an acknowledgment that was so difficult to get the united states to agree to release viktor bout for brittney griner. morally they're two different people. she was caught with traces of cannabis oil in her luggage. viktor bout one of the world's most notorious arms traffickers. even the russians are acutely awa...

Who is viktor bout? he is a monster, but he is also — who is viktor bout? he is a monster, but he is also one _ who is viktor bout? he is a monster, but he is also one of— who is viktor bout? he is a monster, but he is also one of the _ who is viktor bout? he is a monster, but he is also one of the most - but he is also one of the most prolific arms traffickers. he was so sophisticated that even when sanctions were in place against him, he managed to support those sanctions and managed to be responsible for delivering weapons to conflict and ward zones from our scanners than, colombia, con...

Answer this hostage diplomacy situation and resolve it as quickly as possible. so, i would ask president biden to productively discuss and resolve this issue with his russian counterparts. >> reporter: yeah, i think that paul whelan believes he's very much a sort of negotiating chip for the russians to return back some russian prisoners that are in american jails. the problem has always been that the russians in american jails are really high-level criminals. one of them is a convicted cocaine smuggler, conspiracy to smuggle cocaine into the u.s. the other within is the world's most notorious ...