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Are now saying not so bad. what's happening? >> well the north koreans are trying to get negotiating leverage over us. they're doing their typical fiery rhetoric threats and saying their deadline at the end of the year and stop negotiations and continue their nuclear development, they're violating united nations resolutions by shooting those short range missiles, which by the way, japan is vulnerable to those, so what we're concerned about, right now, is why can't we get some negotiations going? the north koreans won't even meet with our negotiators, steven began, whose a capable guy, but this...

Continue to have these arguments with them over trade, to try and get things back on an equal footing. underlying all of that is, as their economy hurts, they are able to help north korea less. when we put pressure on them economically. that is putting pressure on the north korea as well come through the whole exchange. i have always thought those things were intertwined. and it is not a coincidence that right now, as china is hurting in those talks are continuing, kim is coming back to the table. >> capri: that's why i say stay tuned to see what happens. >> dagen: i just want to explain, we w...

Brought them here illegally. they want the dream that's never been acted on that would provide millions of amnesty. i don't believe they'll go this way. i think the radical wing of the democrat party is not going to let them go this way. arthel: joining me now from a former democratic candidate for florida's 12th congressional district. mr. hunter, thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. arthel: are there any plans that will or should bring the democratic leaders back to the negotiating table? >> i don't think we have the opportunity to have a good-faith negotiation until the gov...

Negotiating leverage, and the democrats can just sit by and watch this spin for a certain period of time while the effects of the shutdown land at his feet. and as you noted, this is not a new problem. during his business career, he was a serial bankruptcy artist, he was routinely taken to the cleaners by other deal makers who were more informed, more patient, and more mature than he is, and those sort of things have come home to roost in this negotiation. >> and no one in the history of american government shutdowns has gotten the language of the situation worse than donald trump. we saw him ...

Negotiating leverage, and the democrats can just sit by and watch this spin for a certain period of time while the effects of the shutdown land at his feet. and as you noted, this is not a new problem. during his business career, he was a serial bankruptcy artist, he was routinely taken to the cleaners by other deal makers who were more informed, more patient, and more mature than he is, and those sort of things have come home to roost in this negotiation. >> and no one in the history of american government shutdowns has gotten the language of the situation worse than donald trump. we saw him ...