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And that's not a fun position to be. >> perhaps, i think that the u.s. should always be thinking about what's in its national interest, there's international interest to be made that you make sure that the norm against chemical weapons is enforced. neil: chemical weapons is the dividing line. if you were to kill your people by other means, that's okay. >> assad has been killing people brutally for many years. neil: right, hundreds of thousands. >> does matter again for national interest. there are many humanitarian crises going on all over the world and that does not necessarily mean that it's...

Basically hitting the three targets that everyone has care, cost of care and it's competitive in the workplace because everybody is participating and you can choose your own doctors for those who can afford to pay for it. neil: all right, we still have a system, jonas, that does cover preexisting conditions and the rap against republican alternative plans where they would sent back to the state would not make guaranty or surround that and that has angered a lot of med rate republicans, i'm sure some of the protestors in florida and elsewhere, what do you think? >> well, the preexisting problem...

Now, we need to stop tiptoeing around the situation, quip call weapons, are there chemical weapons, we know that there are chemical weapons, we need to alleviate that by any means necessary so that way it won't be used again and that's going to come from all sides, all of our allies and amongst all, we will not stand for this. neil: thank you very much. >> thank you. neil: a lot of people miscalculating president trump and what he would do or not do in syria because it didn't look like he would do anything in syria, critical of this in the past just like people miscalculated jfk wouldn't respo...

Ago. people in the obama administration acknowledged there was gaps and problems surveilling what the chemical situation was, clapper last february testified in front of congress that there were huge gaps in our ability to understand where their chemical weapons were and what not. susan rice should have known not to say this, trotted out to say things that are helpful to the obama administration that aren't true. most notably right after the benghazi situation where she knew it was not an organic protest in response to a video already immediately the obama administration knew that this was an ...

Result of his willingness to go against standard foreign policy that you see on left and right that doesn't seem to have a clear strategy for victory or knowing why you want to accomplish victory when you get involved in different hot spots and we have on both sides of the aisle seen the failures of not having clear national interest and getting involved with countries that are having an understanding of what it will take to win and making the case to the american people. it takes a lot to win a war and takes a lot of men and money and resilience and it needs to be a case that's made to the am...