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Degree in this hearing in front of cohen. yes, you can discredit him by saying he's a liar. but then the back part of that is how you say, my guy is not. and no one did that. >> nelson, final question to you. what's more problematic or potentially dangerous for the president, the mueller hearing, or the mueller report, or the potential investigations at the sdny or other u.s. attorneys' offices around the country? >> yeah. i think they're both dangerous for very different reasons. the southern district of new york located the lower end of manhattan, where trump has his real estate empire. they...

Congress. as matt was saying, congress will find a way to get their hands on the mueller report. they will find their way to get their hands on the evidence. it happened in watergate when the house judiciary committee subpoenaed leon jaworski's evidence. they used it to begin their impeachment proceedings. mueller holds the political risk for trump but the southern district may hold some criminal jeopardy for him, as well. and for his family. both pretty bad. >> essentially after he is no longer president. nelson cunningham, thank you so much. michael steele, thank you so much. annie carney, m...

Long-standing deleterious effects for the overall -- >> house democrats said they're going to investigate this, nelson. this is just another component of what they plan to investigate. they had michael cohen on the hill this week. michael cohen has been compared to john dean during the nixon era. and john dean wrote an op-ed, and responding to it, he said what is most similar about my and mr. cohen's testimony, we challenge authoritarian presidents of the united states by revealing their lies and abuses of power. mr. trump is the first authoritarian president since mr. nixon and neither he or ...

Long standing deleterious effects. >> house democrats said they're going to investigate this, nelson. this is just another component of what they plan to investigate. they had michael cohen on the hill this week. michael cohen has been compared to john dean during the nixon era. and john dean wrote an op-ed, and said what is most similar about my and mr. cohen's testimony, we challenge authoritarian president's by revealing their lies and abuses. mr. trump is the first authoritarian president since mr. nixon and neither he or supporters will play fair. mr. cohen will be dealing with these peop...

But i will tell you that the president has the absolute right to do what was described. >> late today jared kushner's lawyer, abbe lowell, issued this statement, quote, whatever the accuracy or not of recent news stories, mr. lowell was not aware of, nor told of any request for or action by the president to be involved in the security clearance process. again, officials affirmed at the time that the regular process occurred without any pressure. meanwhile, house oversight chairman, elijah cummings, has given the white house until monday to turn over documents as part of its investigation into ...