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Which hagel was responsible in his two terms in the senate. they can quote no memorable speeches that hagel delivered and can cite no profound passages from the book he authored. they can summarize no perceptive hagelian analysis of defense or foreign policy, and can appeal to no acts of management or leadership by the man they'd have as our next secretary of defense. a long and comprehensive account of american foreign and defense policy in the last 30 years would hardly note his existence." >> this is a battle between, you know, bill who obviously we know and like as well. he's from the neoc...

Barack obama to do even more in syria as far as, you know, possible. i don't know if we're talking about boots on the ground. i don't know if we're talking about air strikes. but again, it seems that the instinct from the romney campaign, when it comes to military intervention, is always more, more, more, just like steve rattner, spending more on defense when the defense budget's already bloated, sending more troops in on some of these areas that are very difficult. but it's always -- the default position always seems to be we must do more. >> well, yeah, i think that's right, joe. and there a...