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Left-leaning anti-trump network. very happy to see jeff go, called him a sleaze bag. but now they're launching a streaming service, the takeover by discovery hasn't happened, and suddenly zucker is gone. tough spot for cnn right now. >> but again, cnn has managed to pull off some ratings, although they've all but disappeared now, for the very fact that they were the foil to donald trump. if they move in a straight news direction, probably be right back where they were when i worked there. you get the peaks and valleys of breaking news and then no breaking news. howard: john roberts, thanks ver...

People that get their news primarily from fox news? >> i think as with anybody, you have to be double checking, triple checking what you watch, what other outlets are saying for a full spectrum. shep was obviously a man on an island certainly in the daytime at fox news. i can tell you two times i went on with shep were two of the hardest interviews i ever did. he is really tough, doesn't let you get away with a lot. great for fox viewers. unfortunately they're losing out on that. also says there will be a lot of questions as to who may rof into that role, shannon breem who is popular at night,...