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Immigration legal in the immigration as far as ice is concerned. if you're illegal in the united states now and walk up to an ice agent and said i entered the country illegally country. ice cannot arrest them because unless they commit a serious felony and gets convicted ice can't arrest. anybody for being in the united states illegally anymore. you open borders. that's what's driving the crisis. even if you turn yourself into border patrol and get into the united states you get order to remove no one is removing you because they changed ice policy also. >> martha: we've heard the opposite fro...

The employers. >> bill: apparently during the obama years they did not enforce the actions against employers and according to government figures the trump administration is lower than that. let's see what happens with cuccinelli. kamala harris over the weekend on a campaign of terror. >> but there's another point here, chuck, the administration directed dhs as part of the campaign of terror of this administration. making whole populations of people afraid to go to work. children are afraid to go to school for fear when they come home their parents won't be there. >> bill: chris, do you enforce...

David gergen. david, when you ask trump officials to articulate the specifics of what's behind this i.c.e. policy, this i.c.e. raid action that they're supposedly taking, the details are scarce. yet, today, we saw the president targeting democratic congresswomen of color, telling them to go back to their countries when, in fact, their country is the united states of america. >> that's correct, ana. once again, i'm afraid the president of the united states has hung out a sign on the front of the white house. it reads, if you're not white, you're not welcome. i don't think we can remember a time...

Order that would get rid of trump's 0-tolerance policy, the remain in mexico policy and the needling policy. many fear deportation, make them us citizens in this country. >> on day one i will make sure that we end the ice policy and cost of border policies violating human rights. shannon: what did you think of the top moment? >> i think the advantage went to booker. the immigration policy debate is fascinating to me because 50% of americans don't think the border is secure. they want more border reform. when you look at this, a risky strategy for democrats, they need to focus on a more humane ...

Church, i am just reminded, a god that i worship and that guides my life is one who does not always bless every human law. i'm convicted that we are doing exactly what we should be doing. >> reporter: the girls have both been accepted to separate colleges in the fall. a family united for as long as they can be. >> we're going to do nefrg our pow -- everything in our power to convince congress not to rip them apart and there's a part of me that thinks a different sway possible. but most of the time i'm preparing for this to get worse. >> reporter: in a statement to cnn ice says, quote, knowingl...