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>> let's go back to the i.c.e. question. i think that's an important one. when you talk to the administration, tameria, they frame this -- or at least they are in my conversations, a question about whether or not positive abolish i.c.e. entirely. they are essentially saying if you cap the number of beds, places they put people they detain, you're essentially abolishing our capability to do enforcement inside the country and that seems like an incredally -- like we're back to another incredibly emotional red line. >> right. and also in this debate that we've been now having for 45 days or whate...

Atto bollish t atto abolish the whole agency, and republicans say why compromise if he won't get the funding he so desires? and mick mulvaney, the clip you played, the chief of staff saying, of course, the wasn't doesn't want a shutdown but they're not willing to rule it out. if the president cannot get something he can sign, yes, the government can shut down or at the very least we have a continuing resolution and will do this all again down the road. mulvaney also interestingly said the national emergency, which some republicans, of course, don't want -- >> most even. >> again, the president...

Motivated to vote for democrats against president donald trump in the midterm elections, i don't know what another rally in the city is going to do for you. but those voters who are sort of on the fence in the swing districts, who might have been saying we really can't have any more of these republicans after the family separation policy, now they are back on the fence again. >> and it's interesting, listen to john lewis here, veteran of the civil rights movement, leading liberal in the congress. democrats understand there's a supreme court coming up and republicans like tax cut plan. suddenly...

Right there to grab that gavel. hey, joy durks have a nice christmas? nice question, john. yes, i did. my family is healthy and happy and santa claus is good to us, regardless of his race. my christmas was terrific. thank you. rapid response panel is next. i'm josh lipton with your cnbc wrap. dow rising 122 points, notching its 50th record close of the year. s&p is up 8 points, also at a new high. nasdaq gained 11 to close at its highest level since september of 2000, helping propel stocks higher. welcome news about the labor market, filing for first-time jobless claims fell more than expe...

Customs and border patrol. we still have limited and humane immigration enforcement in this country. let's remember, i said something that is only been here -- if i might. ice has been here for 15 years, ice has been here for 15 years, it's a 15 year experiment. prior to that we were able to enforce our immigration laws humanely and in a limited way. we need to get back. >> tucker: the ice question little more deeply, is there something immoral about the ice employees? a lot of democrats have compared them to nazis do you think they are bad people? >> that's absurd. >> tucker: ice carries out ...