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not produce any evidence of election fraud, something they were not ashamed to admit. >> at some point did one of them make a comment that they didn't have evidence, but they had a lot of theories? >> that was mr. giuliani. >> and what exactly did he say and how did that come up? >> my recollection he said we've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence. >> the pressure campaign against state officials was relentless and it was dangerous. it included ugly threats and intimidation by trump supporters and the former president himself leaving one georgia election worker too ...

These gun groups, but i think one other thing to keep in mind is there were significant changes in gun legislation that's part of this package, not only is there millions of dollars for school security, for mental health, there is also an investment in really the way that 18 to 21 year olds can buy a gun in this country. before they were just talking about making it so that when you went to a gun store if you were between those ages and you wanted to buy a gun like an ar-15 it would change that process so that the juvenile records would be included in the nick system, however, now it's all gun...

Goes into their corner, it's why i like talking to you because we're not necessarily on the same side of this issue, do you think that's reasonable. if we can sit there and say that nick system that when you buy a gun at a store should be applied when you go to a gun store, when you buy a gun from a stranger or online, would that be something the nra would sit at the table and say okay? >> well, if we go back 20 years, wayne lapierre and the nra endorsed background checks at gun shows. they changed their view. i think there is all sorts of internal, once again, politics getting in the way of r...

Taken away in illinois, should he have had weapons in tennessee. >> he should not have had weapons, correct. >> in tennessee. >> in tennessee. >> he was legally stripped of his ability to purchase or possess weapons? >> it actually goes back to -- they control the nick system not atf. >> lieutenant lara, if i could ask you a question. >> lieutenant who? >> lara. >> yes, sir. >> give us an idea how this man was able to survive and escape your dragnet. what do you think he was able to do. >> i don't know. we don't have that information. i wasn't involved in a lot of the planning and a lot of the...

Case, i don't think a guy like this -- obviously is ignoring laws about murder is going to be restricted by some new gun law. i don't think it would have changed anything. what would have changed something is if somebody had been in the building who could have shot back immediately. that sounds like common sense to me. >> there does seem to be a problem with the background checks this is what the fbi said earlier. >> for the four purchases that he made, they did the required checks and there was no prohibitive information in the systems that we checked that said he could not have purchased tha...