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The Beat With Ari Melber

to today's fast-food workers. californians have led the way. now, $20/hour is here. thanks to governor newsom and leaders in sacramento, we can lift workers out of poverty. stop the race to the bottom in the fast-food industry. and build a california for all of us. thank you governor and our california lawmakers for fighting for what matters. what a week it has been. we want to thank you for letting us into your home during these truly extraordinary times. we're grateful. "the beat" with ari melber starts right now. >> hi, nicolle. thanks so much. welcome to the beat, i'm ari melber. the judge who is presiding over donald trump's criminal trial, said what you see on this

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jury of 12 of donald trump's peers had been sworn in? >> you know, nicolle, the last thing anybody wants, except for perhaps donald trump, is for jurors to feel intimidated and let that creep in to their assessment of the case, let it creep in to their deliberations. you really want jurors to decide the case only based on the facts and the law as the judge instructs them on the law. and you know, donald trump seems intent on injecting fear and intimidation and threats either himself or through his supporters when he posts things about his perceived enemies, and he names names. you know, we all know what he is signaling to his supporters, basically get them. get after them in any way you can. so i think it's going to be really important that this jury is protected not only against

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because we're going to possibly have the first witness go on on monday too. the d.a.'s office said usually we'd do it as a courtesy, but in this case your client over there, he's been tweeting about the witnesses and endangering them, so we won't do it. he tried several ways to make it happen. first he said i'll promise you that my client won't tweet. and there was an eruption of laughter in the overflow room, and judge merchan himself responded i don't think you can promise that. and then they said what if we made that information attorneys eyes only, meaning we won't show it to our client. joshua steinglass still demurred. eventually judge merchan said look i can't find fault with them given what has gone on here. i'm not going to make them do it. we are likely barrelling towards opening statements on monday, still without an understanding of who the d.a.'s first witnesses are, and nicolle, you can bet that if the d.a.'s office doesn't want to tell their adversary they're probably not going to tell folks like us either. so there will likely be a number of surprises here.

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violated your gag order. we want you to hold him in criminal contempt because of things like his truth social post and things that he has then put on his campaign website or included in emails. this is a person who is incapable of following your order, we want you to hold him in contempt. remember, they've so far asked for a thousand dollars per tweet or post as a fine, but they said today very, very cautiously we reserve the right to ask for more sanctions. we are still considering what's appropriate. and so that discussion today about trump being unable to control himself, if in possession of who the first three witnesses are, that occurs against the backdrop of merchan already being asked to impose discipline on trump for the ways in which he hasn't disciplined himself yet, nicolle. >> lisa, was there any change after this one juror who was singled out by jesse waters at fox news and identified through her biography and maligned and

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also for the protection of the witnesses, but it will add an element of drama to what already is promising to be the trial of this century. >> lisa, this is just -- it feels like a marker, right? the judge in this case is essentially describing what we've all watched in our politics now for nine years, trump's inability not to tweet as an uncontrollable bodily function, right? i would give you these names but we know that he can't not attack. that's a pretty extraordinary place for trump to start. >> it's an extremely extraordinary place for trump to start, particularly considering, nicolle, that the d.a.'s office opened this morning by giving the judge additional posts, in fact, seven additional posts that trump has made just since the trial opened asking judge merchan when he has a hearing next tuesday on three posts that they've already given him, they want him to add these additional seven and say, look, this is ten times totally that this guy has

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information to the client. that gets a little dicey, but we use protective orders not infrequently, it sounds like judge merchan is not even willing to do that, and what i say is safety first. you know, the system needs to rise up and protect these witnesses. so as a courtesy, i absolutely agree. i would almost always give the defense notice of the order of call. that is who are the witnesses who we are expected to put on the stand tomorrow and the next day and the next day. it's the courteous thing to do, but safety first. so you know, and we continue for whatever reason nicolle, we're all talking about how fines won't mean anything to him. but you know, the law actually has a vehicle to hold a dangerous pretrial defendant accountable, and it's called pretrial detention. if there's clear and convining evidence that the defendant who's on release in a felony case presents a danger to the community or even one person in

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joining our break news coverage, our colleague msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, she's been inside the courthouse for us all day long. it took you a bit to get out because of what we've been talking about for the last hour and a half, the need and the judge's commitment to keeping jurors and potential jurors safe. tell us about the day and its dramatic conclusion of swearing in 12 jurors. >> reporter: nicolle, it was the day that people didn't think would come for a few weeks, and i said earlier today that based on the math we'd have a jury of 12 today, and indeed we do. we have a jury of 12 and one alternate, but the day did not end without fireworks and that's because todd blanche understanding that opening statements are likely to happen monday asked the d.a. for something that's usually routine in criminal cases or even civil cases. please give us your list of your first two to three witnesses

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they trust. they listen to their family, people in their churches, people in their community. it's up to them. talk to the people in your lives about this. this is not a popularity contest. this is a choice. this is too important to ignore. >> it doesn't have been to be a hypothetical when you look at issues around choice and policing and blm. we can have civil discourse. surely this merits that. you're referring to whether people have the facts or what nicolle calls living here on earth. i want to thank you both for being part of our special coverage. we have a break. we'll be anchoring "the beat" as well. stay with us. well stay with us

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here is that you have a lot of republicans in this party staying on truths and they're being treated in a more of a sort of two sidesish way, the mainstream media tends to. and so that is a real structural disadvantage for democrats. at least for the democrats like the biden administration that really are sort of held by the truth. remember, trump always would say, you know, these incredible lies and people got used to it. you would never -- it is hard to say trump was saying something untrue because it was so usual. and so he has really lowered the bar for himself in a certain way. and so you do see that biden ends up being way more scrutinized than trump because of this. i do think it is a structural disadvantage for the biden administration, but i agree there is a lot to brag about economically and i hope that they'll be able to effectively do it. >> all right, as nicolle would say, lucky for us, no one is going anywhere. when we return, nbc news can now

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chairman michael steele. our friend, michael steele, who once ran the esteemed national republican party. how far we have all come from those. days michael steele, what was your take watching this tonight? >> you know, let's start with how far we have fallen. >> [laughter] -- >> i think, is, a good place to start -- but rachel maddow, what for me it was interesting was, a lot of folks -- and nicolle knows this very well, and my friend joy knows this too given her space in politics and knowing about it -- this is not about who won or who lost. this is about who is able to who is able to achieve the goal, the training, the conversations, the preparation, all of that in the debate process leads up to is, do you look presidential at the end of the night? do you look like someone that the country, at the end of the day can say, i can see them in the oval office? and tonight, the only person who struck that chord for me, was nikki haley. she was the only one who took

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