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Tact with donald trump in the oval office and depending on who the next leader is we could see an even closer relationship. he suggested that people like boris johnson, a potential candidate he would like to work with. >> you took the words out of my mouth. he extended an invitation to boris johnson who could become the next prime minister and johnson said, no, he has met with nigel feradge and the president continues to insert himself and in u.k. politics to remind everybody, peter, this is not typical behavior for a u.s. president. and it was first coined by winston churchill in the 1940s an...

Quite a stark contrast, i think. and its in both people's interest, the united states and great britain to have this new bilateral trade agreement. >> and james, boris johnson, a potential next prime minister and people was watching to see if they meet and boris declined a meeting with the president and saying he had a pre-planned event and do you think that is a wise move. >> it is an interesting move. we do know the president has met with leading lights in the brexit movement this evening. including nigel feradge and duncan smith and others. so for boris johnson to decline the meeting is rem...

Country, that he enjoys the chaos, he enjoys throwing his weight around. but i also think that is just his world view. he backed brexit before it took place. he's very close to people on the hard right of politics in this country like nigel feradge and that is his opinion. he thinks that the weakening of the european union with britain leaving is a good thing. >> matthew mcgregor, thank you for the perspective. we appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead, the blood of emmett till, it is a murder changing the course of the civil rights movement, after the break i speak with the author whose w...

Ambassador to the u.k. alexander yakko vengeo. just days after the trump tower meeting, banks and wigmore had lunch again with the ambassador. nigel feradge asked him about it on the the british radio sw just this week. >> three days after we met -- or president-elect trump as it was, you met the russian ambassador and people would say, were you reporting back? >> not really. we'd had a very pleasant lunch with him the last -- that lasted six hours and he saw a picture of us on the golden -- the doors of trump's apartment and of course he got in touch because he's seen us. >> the first trump e...