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So go on the stage can really take him on? his name was like voter mort voldemort last night. people didn't really speak it. studies on the stage. do they go after him? >> i think they do pray bernie sanders in particular, comes out swinging. on the stage, the depiction of what's happening in the democratic party. that's the battle between the progressive side of the party and the more centrist side. i think it played out a little last night between bill de blasio and john delaney on the issue of health care. i thought delaney got the better of the former maryland congressman. i do think that ...

Congress presented him with some of the items that are in the republican platform at this convention that would, for example, roll back. >> joining me now, in tampa, nbc news tom brokaw and, tom, we of course go to you for history on night ts like this. two questions. the last time a presidential candidate quoted popeye? and then secondly, when is the last time a presidential candidate has been struggling so much with the likability factor in polls? >> it's been a while since we've had anybody struggle as mup as he has with the likability factor. in part, he had to become something that he was...