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federal court. the bottom line is, he is toast! there is nothing he can do -- [laughs] >> i was gonna say screwed. there is a consistency problem here. you can say many times, in public, on television, there was all kinds of things in those boxes. i don't know what was in those boxes. so it's very hard to get from -- at and have any idea what was in the boxes, to, i know they planted things. do you agree with that? >> i completely agree. judge dearie is a no nonsense judge. he's not going to take pr statements and say that that has any merit and his court. he is going to say as these...

Connecticut here, said you know what, you are liable. now we are going to go and allow a jury to determine how much you are going to pay those families for what you said. so it just goes about from the outset a total lack of disrespect in decorum, a total lack, really, valuing what is actually true. it happened, right? december 2012, it did occur, people died. and now here we are in terms of his accountability, we will see what the jury does with respect to that. >> joe jackson, thank you very, much i appreciate it. >> we will be right back. >> always. ere. just one dose starts to relieve 9 of...