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The republican side and democrats, of course, but also i think in the eyes of the public and hes still not going to get it . It was actually the core of gaetzs speech was that mccarthy had, what did he say selling shares of himself. And one of the people i assume he tried to sell shares of himself to was matt gaetz. Yes, i mean, this group owns many of those shares and yet they are i think its amazing to people who buy shares or willingly take shares hes giving up attack him for that very act. Yes, but it does speak to this sense of not fearing mccarthy, a sense of lack of respect for mccarthy...

the republican side and democrats, of course, but also i think in the eyes of the public and he's still not going to get it? >> it was actually -- the core of gaetz's speech was that mccarthy had, what did he say -- >> selling shares of himself. >> and one of the people i assume he tried to sell shares of himself to was matt gaetz. >> yes, i mean, this group owns many of those shares and yet they are -- i think -- >> it's amazing to people who buy shares or willingly take shares he's giving up attack him for that very act. >> yes, but it does speak to this sense of not fearing mccart...

Omnibus budget and laughed him off. it's traditional for house leaders to rally their base by flaying the senate but that looked -- that was such an irresponsible thing to do and it just really was a measure of -- >> it was a letter signed on to by a number of freedom caucus members. >> look, mccarthy knows that mcconnell did him the biggest favor in the world by passing that. the only thing they didn't do was pass the debt ceiling. should have done that. they all knew the omnibus needed to happen. if this group can't get 218 votes will pass a spending bill? >> it's interesting you mex stefani...

The incentive structure it's really hard if you're trying to hand out some carrots when there's nothing you can offer them that will be good enough. >> this is a group who wants to burn it down. kevin offered them everything, and they said no. they don't want it. i also think we should talk about former congressman rodney davis talked about the democrats that they're going to get tired and they're going to step up. nonsense. >> oh, no, they love this. >> nonsense. >> the happiest people on the floor of the house. >> all day, all night and, you know, the only question in my mind, someone said t...

Much. how does -- i mean, do people leave it up to kevin mccarthy to decide, okay, enough is enough, i'm going to take my hat out or do people -- does somebody go to him? >> sooner or later there will have to be a conversation about what's good for the institution and what's good for the country. and so, again, we have this standoff where mccarthy's backers are fighting these 19 and at some point somebody will have to blink but they have to think about, you know, the institution of the congress, the house itself. because it looks -- this looks terrible. the american public, you've already he...