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Damage and the really bad images and everything looks really rotten. the president looks like he made a big mistake. at the end of the day, it doesn't look like the rebels will win in any case. perhaps this is say situation that politically that all parties had, except the rebels, had hoped for. a stalemate in which gadhafi is not going to do any more, didn't have the to do any more. the united states and its allies and the arab league really don't have to do anything except announce there will be a no-fly and no-drive zone and things end more or less the way they are with a rump western libya...

>> it's more than a no-fly, it's a declaration of war, basically, against gadhafi? >> sounds to me like it's broad authorization. >> well, at least it's doing it right if you're going to do it. i'm not sure it's a good idea, but if you're going to do it, knock them out of there! thank you, ambassador. >> you're welcome. >> nice to have some exercise on the region. next, presidential politics. donald trump is talking more like a candidate, tuned my distress, talking more like a birther, but maybe that's the way to show he's serious. he's willing to talk like the people on the very far right i...

Clinton very, very clearly saying yesterday to congress that the no-fly zone is just -- carries too many risks unilaterally. we won't do anything on our own. chris matthews, interestingly last night former president clinton at the newsweek daily beast delineates a much more muscular policy and reflects his own background and felt regret we did not in the clinton years, the united states did not act more quickly on rwandrwanda, on koso kosovo. >> they did on somalia and it was a disaster. we have these road maps. omission and comission. pick your poison here. we all know that the arab world is ...

>> what about something short of that, because the president's holding back on no-fly, what about some kind of embargo against oil exports? just stop them from exporting oil. maybe that would be against our economic interests, but it would certainly shut down that government, wouldn't it? >> pretty much, their oil operations have literally ceased. but at the same time, any kind of economic boycott, any kind of economic sanction, any kind of efforts to ensure that the regime and the leadership doesn't travel, that always was tactic that we used. getting some of the libyan military to peel off, ...

Perhaps nato-led with our assistance. i think we need to take steps, chris, the united states to airlift humanitarian supplies, possibly some weapons to the rebels. i have said that it makes sense to covertly find ways to help the rebels, give them some ammunition, give them some weapons. i think the time has come to step in. i think the president has handled it well. he's calibrating his remarks, he's building international support, diplomatic support, economic support. i wouldn't discount this report about gadhafi going to his opposition and saying let's talk. i think he's feeling the pressu...