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Denies it acted with actua malice into may in case. joining me now, attorney chris matty, he was the need attorne for the sandy hook families in one of the defamation case against alex jones also with us, angela course, o president co of media matters. chris, thank you so much for being with us. new york times calls the dominion case, quote, the li about law equivalent of th super bowl what is the standard of proo in the libel lawsuit and why i this which is so high stakes >> it's a huge case, it is ver difficult to prove defamatio or libel against a media organization what dominion is going o...

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There's plenty to test. let's get after it. all right. cnn has multiple sources say saudi arabia is preparing to acknowledge jamal khashoggi was killed. during a botched interrogation. they will further claim khashoggi interrogation was only supposed to lead to his abduction from turkey and those involved will be held responsible. let's discuss. with nebraska republican senator ben sass. good to have you. author of a new book, them. why we hate each other. and how to heal. this is something that has to be discussed. not just tonight. my pleasure. there's a lot in the book. can't get to it al...

Will be held responsible. let's discuss this with nebraska republ senator ben sass. good to have you here. author of a new book "them: why we hate each other and how to heal." this is something that has to be discus not just tonight. my pledge, there is a lot in this book. can't get to it all. matter in a continuatio conver come back senator. it's going to play in the things you ha to deal with. in fact, it does tonight. good to have you. we'll talk about the book specif but let's talk about connecting the in terms of how we get along and why we don't. the saudis have given us no proof to beli...

Invader or illegals or infestation is what leads to the kind of atrocities we read about in authoritarian regimes around the world. it begins with the dehumanization and then catastrophe ensues. let's not forget the president has proven to us that he's incapable of logistics or realizing that logistics exist. it is not such a clear situation that they can return these kids. they've offered us no proof that they took the time to record these children's names in their parentage. what we do know is they didn't give the parents any kind of tracking number. it might sound unhuman but you could atta...