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A megalomegalo maniacal dictato plays by no rules except his own. he has developed a sophisticated nuclear delivery system. will he use it? david wright is with the union of concerned scientists, a group of experts dedicated to monitoring the perils of the nuclear age. >> i started watching the missile program of north korea back in the early '90s. i've been trying to get people to pay attention since then and to really put a lid on it. >> what caused all of this proliferation? how did that happen? >> other countries start to think, well, what do we need? what are the threats out there, and wh...

Live" she would like to see play her more. i don't want to rip on my fellow journalists but she got the sit down and she made news. >> one of the things being challenged involve what's she said about those e mails and her insisting that no rules were broken. shannon kauffman is former counsel to vice president cheney. guys thank you for being here. >> good evening. . >> i just want to play for viewers what she said on e mail. do we have the sound byte? waiting? listen here. >> so yes. this is being blown up with no basis in law or in fact. that is fine i get it. this is being in effect used by...

I so ethat in retrospect, and we can all look in retrospect, but who could have seen coming the overthrow of a sunni-led government in baghdad would have led to a debathification, would lead to the creation of a rebel army, in both the territory of iraq and syria. who could have seen that coming and blown the whistle on this before we got that far. start right there. a debathification. >> it's an incredibly hard thing to predict. but what do i think we should be doing is trying to learn from the mistakes of the past. the first thing is, when you take out an army and a police force, you leave a...

Force, you leave a power vacuum which allows anyone to do anything they like. and that's what we're seeing at the moment. that's why isis has been allowed to grow -- >> okay what do we do now? >> okay what we do now is we understand what the critical capability of isis is. and to me it's the ability to be able to operate asymmetrically. basically, isis play by no rules. if america get on the ground they have to play by rules. there are 180,000 coalition soldiers in 2007 in iraq, which tamed the insurgency, didn't beat the insurgency. so what america does through the cia is it works out who the...

To people who were suspected terrorists. the people in the streets are suspected of having a different faith. >> the american government at any points in time has the responsibility to protect and defend the constitution, and two, to protect and defend the american people. we have had enormous success since 9/11. we tend to forget the pervasive fears that happened after 9/11. i understand this is in the range of moral context and there are a series of issues to talk about. but when you are talking about an enemy that operates according to no rules and beheads american citizens as matter of cou...