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Let him finish excuse me a minute. The president , of course, was known to be upset about the recusal in the first place. But look, this is on the front side of all the litany of things you heard about. At the same time, as i said, it went way beyond from the Attorney Generals perspective, way beyond wrong the recusal called for under the regulation thats just wrong. That is wrong. That is not the reading of the regulation. Read it. And the ethics rules for lawyers, rule 1. 7 for lawyers, conflicts of interest. He cannot investigate a campaign in which he was a material part of that campaign. ...

The first thrust and the primary thrust of the russia investigation was the third one at the department of justice, that's counterintelligence. this is a russian meddling of one form or another, at least an attempt, in american affairs. that is a counterintelligence investigation first and foremost. the regulation that governs recusal does not touch that, does not touch that. >> it's criminal. >> that's where this whole thing began. that's where this whole thing began, and the attorney general recused himself way beyond merely criminal investigation. he -- he took all of the items off the tabl...