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Democratic party could never nominate elderly white man as the nominee. i mean, how could you do that? do you think biden is over after last night? >> i think that he has lost a little momentum. let me step back and tell you i think it's too early to say that. because there are nine debates and 31 weeks to go before the first votes are cast in iowa. we have a long way to go. the other thing i thought was interesting reading about polling, a live poll that was taken in iowa with undecided democrats. and they had a group of african-americans. a group of non-educated, and college educated, marrie...

Nominate elderly white man as the nominee. how could you do that? do you think biden is over after last night? >> i think that he has lost a little momentum. let me step back and tell you it's too early to say that. because there are nine debates and 31 weeks to go before the first votes are cast in iowa. we have a long way to go. the other thing i thought was interesting reading about polling, a live poll that was taken in iowa with undecided democrats. and they had a group of african-americans. a group of non-educated, college educated, married, all the different groups. those people are not...

Numbers were lower of all demographics, democrats and republicans, part of the story gloria was talking about. >> and the one thing, too, there was a myth, there was a sweep. fewer people voted than last time and the minority demographic that was expected to show up for hillary clinton just didn't -- it wasn't a real sweep of people cross the country, which we thought, which john king pointed out earlier. >> right, it didn't turnout to be at all. that was the case for just women in general, but the thing that sort of cleaned her with the way voters came out was the divide between educated wome...

>> andrea: "criminal" being, do you consider them a criminal because they came here illegally or they came here and committed a crime? >> greg: i mean people doing bad stuff. i want to say there is, i can't remember who talked about it. but america was created by risk-makers. the people who came over here, risk their lives to come over here. i would rather have a person who risked their lives to come here and work hard. >> eric: no, no, no. look. >> greg: making a point. >> bob: we have had in our immigration policy a fast road to citizenship for people who have desperately needed jobs like en...

>> andrea: "criminal" being, do you consider them a criminal because they came here illegally or they came here and committed a crime? >> greg: i mean people doing bad stuff. i want to say there is, i can't remember who talked about it. but america was created by risk-makers. the people who came over here, risk their lives to come over here. i would rather have a person who risked their lives to come here and work hard. >> eric: no, no, no. look. >> greg: making a point. >> bob: we have had in our immigration policy a fast road to citizenship for people who have desperately needed jobs like en...