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Define what a journalist is? >> i'll tell you how the secretary of state mike pompeo defines it. guys, listen to this. >> it is time to call out wikileaks for what it really is, a nonstate hostile intelligence service often embedded by state actors like russia. >> a nonstate hostile intelligence service is different than a journalism outfit. >> well, i mean, so says mike pompeo, then i think at the cia. >> true. >> but asang in court could say, but how do you define what i'm doing as different from what journalist ds do? i get classified information and i publish it. i have no doubt that wikil...

Objective was. >> well, my role in advising the u.n. human rights council is to visit a number of countries each year. i most recently went to countries like china and saudi arabia, for example. it seemed to me that the united states has a very major influence on issues of policy relating to poverty and human rights, and it was an ideal time to undertake a visit. >> and when you went, were you surprised by what you started to discover or were you already aware of some of the problems? how would you describe your journey? >> i knew basically what i was going to find. but the contrasts that one ...

Interview on his support for julian assange and wikileaks, and it's just worth noting. you started to get at this a little bit, anderson, that the current cia director, mike pompeo, trump's cia director has come out and said that wikileaks is a non-state, hostile intelligence service that works with foreign intelligence agencies. and really that is something worth note, that if this is somebody who has been advising the president for decades and to the extent he may have continue to have his ear -- we don't know -- the fact that really doubled down on that support for wikileaks, even going so ...

One other thing on just something that stone said, so he really doubled down in this interview on his support for julian assange and wikileaks, and it's just worth noting. you started to get at this a little bit, anderson, that the current cia director, mike pompeo, trump's cia director has come out and said that wikileaks is a non-state, hostile intelligence service that works with foreign intelligence agencies. and really that is something worth note, that if this is somebody who has been advising the president for decades and to the extent he may have continue to have his ear -- we don't kn...

Donald trump's son and wikileaks were secretly corresponding. late tonight, don jr. released the messages on twitter. as first reported in "the atlantic," the exchanges with wikileaks went on for at least ten months, starting in september of 2016, just two months before the election. the president's son communicating with wikileaks, a group the intelligence community believes was used by russia to spread information about hillary clinton and influence the election. even president trump's own cia director has said this -- >> it's time to call out wikileaks for what it really is. a non-state, ho...