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Conversations, wolf. not to my knowledge. and i have consulted with former colleagues in the obama administration as well who share my recollection that calls were not recorded. that said, there are human witnesses to the call, professionals that work in the situation room as well as perhaps the senior director for europe, white house, national security adviser and secretary of state who again are human witnesses to what was said at the call. i will flag, wolf, president trump is meeting with president zelensky tomorrow. we better hope there's a note taker and accurate record of what happens i...

Whistle blower recently left the national security council where he or she was detailed from the intelligence community. so this person still was an intelligence community employee but was actually resident on the white house complex. and so if that is in fact the case, it is quite possible that he or she could have either sat in as a note taker on a phone call or could have seen a transcript. the trump administration has been alluded to did cut down but you still have to have permanent records in order for the read out to be transmitted within the national security council and through the sen...

Administration withholding witnesses from the so-called impeachment hearings. now you have this issue. again, congressional oversight is a staple of our divided government, divided government system. the trump administration has made the determination it's not going to participate in a lot of this oversight. that's going to be a problem for house democrats. you can see this clash, you can already see it brewing and see more tensions rising here on capitol hill. >> ken, do we know how many people even have access to this kind of information, the contents of a president's phone call? >> i've bee...

National security council where he or she was detailed from the intelligence community. so this person still was an intelligence community employee but was actually resident on the white house complex. and so if that is in fact the case, it is quite possible that he or she could have either sat in as a note taker on a phone call or could have seen a transcript. the trump administration has been alluded to did cut down but you still have to have permanent records in order for the read out to be transmitted within the national security council and through the seniors throughout the administratio...

The democrat-run committee. joining us now, vicki ward following the details. you broke this story before it was made official by the house democrats. but now here we are. they have issued the subpoena. how likely is it to go anywhere in. >> well there is a pattern of resistance from people who worked in the white house. but if the end with the exception of don mcgahn, the white house chief counsel they have complied to varying degrees. i think rob porter is of particular interest to house democrats not least because he was one of the most cited sources in the second part of the mueller report...