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Democracy. it sounds like the talks may be stalled. >> suffice to say we are not where we want to be in terms of resolving this situation. and the conversations continue with the egyptian government. >> what's key here is that the u.s. embassy in cairo is sovereign u.s. territory it does limit the ability of egyptian authorities to detain or arrest these americans. when pushed to explain why the special invitation, the state department insisted it is a "newsweek" situation, shep. >> shepard: today it looks like people at a pretty high level are getting involved here today, catherine. >> that's...

Panetta, correct? at the pa net that is the top goif. panetta himself did not testify, correct? >> not before this panel. he testified before the senate armed services committee last year. here is the point of this testimony, bill. >> let's say on panetta. >> yes, please. >> what did he say to panetta in the senate committee? basically i got the word from the general something called afri-con. libya. 15 minutes of the attack starting, the head of afri-con notifies the chairman of the joint chiefs, the chairman of the joint chiefs and the other guy go to panetta. all three of them know within 2...