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Attract non-traditional voters and that even though new jersey has this reputation as, frankly, a state that's full of corrupt politicians, he's something different. he won two terms in that state by overcoming all of that, by changing how business worked in that state. and, obviously, what we're learning over the last week or so, is putting a pretty serious accident in that reputation. >> okay, dana lash, you tweeted this. you said you don't have to be a christie fan, and you're not, really. i think we know that from the start, to note the startling difference between handling a bridgegate an...

I think we know that from the start, to note the startling difference between handling a bridgegate and irs/nsa benghazi. do you think there's a double standard in the way the democrats are going after christie, given the way those three other scandals played out? >> well, i knew you couldn't quote me, piers. but to answer your question, yeah, i do think that there's a difference. and i wanted to add, too, to mark's point, which i actually agree with. i think there's a little bit of political retribution going on here with the republican party as well, after the early funding with hurricane sa...