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Surprising. explain what you mean there. >> i'm sorry, say that again? >> will you talk about the nsa reforms that the president has proposed there? and i believe you said disappointing, but you're not surprised by that. >> i'm not surprised by it. i think that he had the opportunity to roll it back completely. of course, without congressional action, whatever he does can be overturned or heightened with the next president. so really, this is congress that needs to act. i'm not surprised by little if any action. and i would have wished that he would have rolled this back completely. i'm a flam...

They ticked off a whole bunch of issues. they sort of left out health care completely, and i said, so what does health care look like? well, they said, as long as everything continues to get a little bit better, a little bit better, they think they can somehow ease things. ultimately, no matter what, they would like to be talking about anything other than health care. they prefer nsa reforms which is unpopular. >> they like this fight because they want credit for a good year, right? >> they do. the economy has gotten so much better over the course of the presidency, and the administration hasn...

They do the game apps for the iphone, he suggested president obama go so far as to pardon edward snowden, the nsa leaker, the person that some people call a traitor, others call a whistleblower. president obama said he could not do that. some of the other things we heard from participants in the meeting include that the president told the executives that nsa reforms will be announced in january. the executives got the impression from president obama that have bulk collection is not likely going to stop anytime soon, but that there will be an attempt at more transparency. the executives, as i s...

I asked someone what their january would look like, and they ticked off a whole bunch of issues. they sort of left out health care completely, and i said, so what does health care look like? well, they said, as long as everything continues to get a little bit better, a little bit better, they think they can somehow ease things. ultimately, no matter what, they would like to be talking about anything other than health care. they prefer nsa reforms which is unpopular. >> they like this fight because they want credit for a good year, right? >> they do. the economy has gotten so much better over t...

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