And number three, you take that much electricity out of ukraine and you are really hurting ukrainian society, so i'd say it's all three of those goals. >> so i spoke with professor jeffrey lewis, he's a nuclear expert. i said that like you all don't know each other. >> i do know. >> all right. good. so he said that an accident potentially at zaporizhzhia could have the same impact of chernobyl in the '80s, of fukushima as well. putin has to know that, the locals on the ground there have to know that. so is it worth risking that level 7 maximum severity here that would have impacts on russians ...