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>> shouldn't they -- you were saying that they should certify the election just a few days ago and move forward. they should not do that, right? there should be -- they should wait until they get the facts in and probably call a new election, don't you think? >> i would say yes to the first part of that. absolutely, we believe the investigation should continue. now, remember that the criminal investigations both on the state and federal level continue no matter what happens with the certification of mr. harris's race. it is our belief that the question of certification is a numeric one. if the...

The people not represented in congress. i know you're concerned about that. it seems like u.s. house democratic leadership has indicated they're not going to seat mr. harris so they're unlikely to be unrepresented at the beginning of the term anyway. let the facts emerge, and we will abide by the facts. >> final question for you, it has to do with the fact that the republican majority in the state legislature is right now moving for another version of the voter id bill, that the original was struck down by federal courts because it targeted african-americans with, i quote the court decision, a...

Incumbent congressional republican, these are the bladen county mail-in absentee ballots for that primary race this year, mark harris, 437, having hired the man in question, to do the scheme scheme over robert pittinger. those numbers make no sense and there's reporting today that robert pittinger's people talked to you personally complaining about shenanigans and nothing was done. is that true? >> i'm trying -- i've been trying to recall that. it might have been. if i can offer some context. you know, the republican party rules prevent us from being involved in a primary. we often get complai...

Of election nonpartisan investigators sooner rather than later. you know, they're the -- >> shouldn't they -- you were saying that they should certify the election just a few days ago and move forward. they should not do that, right? there should be -- they should wait until they get the facts in and probably call a new election, don't you think? >> i would say yes to the first part of that. absolutely, we believe the investigation should continue. now, remember that the criminal investigations both on the state and federal level continue no matter what happens with the certification of mr. ha...

Look, if it rises to a level that it puts the outcome in question then we should have a new election. if they can assert and prove that whatever bad behavior that is going to be punished criminally could absolutely not have changed the outcome then mr. harris should be certified. if it's in the middle which is far more likely it seems we should delay the question of certification until the board of elections can answer that question for the people. you know, look, there's so many innocent victims here. the innocent victims are the voters that cast illegal votes, the people not represented in c...