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>> it's entirely possible to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. that's what's going on here. he's also a nut, which we shouldn't give too much credence. >> is he a nut being driven by nutty rhetoric from extremists? >> absolutely. they're taking our guns narrative that has emerged over the last really not just ten years or five years, really last 40 years. whenever there's a democrat in office or gives any resistance to the second amendment, in my mind. >> do you think that the gun debate will ever change? >> i think it could, but the difference between that and say civil right...

>>. >> you went from gun to ar-15. >> what's it mean? god-given right? >> it's entirely possible to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. that's what's going on here. he's also a nut, which we shouldn't give too much credence. >> is he a nut being driven by nutty rhetoric from extremists? >> absolutely. they're taking our guns narrative that has emerged over the last really not just ten years or five years, really last 40 years. whenever there's a democrat in office or gives any resistance to the second amendment, in my min

>> is he a nut being driven by nutty rhetoric from extremists? >> absolutely. they're taking our guns narrative that has emerged over the last really not just ten years or five years, really last 40 years. whenever there's a democrat in office or gives any resistance to the second amendment, in my mind. >> do you think that the gun debate will ever change? >> i think it could, but the difference between that and say civil rights is big money. there's so much money invested in gun money. >> you and i both know that there's a culture in the united states, and it's a difference between urban and ...