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let me finish tonight with a government shutdown that feels different than we're used to. the president is firing away on twitter, but there's no sign of any serious negotiations, no votes looming, no loud rallies, no dualing press conferences, a lot of members of congress aren't even in washington, they're away for the holidays. democrats may be content to wait until the new year, that's when they take control of the house to make their move. republicans, they've been burned by the white house already. they may be fine with waiting until then too. as politico puts it today "this episode is remarkably low key." we've seen the opposite of low key with he has shutdowns before, go back two decades to november of 1995, nut gingrich, the first republican house speaker in a 40 years, locked in a staring contest with bill clinton. that government shutdown was all anyone talked about for days. it led every newscast, big
through our camera frame. meanwhile, the president-elect is said to be considering nine different people for secretary of state. here is a rather large display of them on your screen, and a lot of names you're going to recognize. rudy giuliani. former u.n. ambassador john bolton, nut gingrich, mitt romney. someone he was at odds with during the campaign. an unconventional mix to be sure. some couldn't be more different on where they stand on certain issues. jerry seib, washington bure echief for the "wall street journal" joining me to discuss that. so you -- lay this out in your piece a lot of pluses and a lot of minuses. give them to us. >> you know, the, one of the criticisms of donald trump during the campaign was he didn't have a very well articulated world view. a few things he felt strongly about. obviously, building a wall, renegotiating trade agreements, questioning alines but not a real plan. he doesn't have a fixed set of
bolstered immeasurable by this. i would say it's qualified by that one statistic which is that only 50% of new jersey think he'd be a good president. >> that was interesting. >> 46% say not. because the issue with chris christie i think is temperament. it's his bullying tone, it's his slight ego mania that people get a little -- but however, the gender gap is staggering. despite that. >> i think it can be a credit and debit by the way. it cuts both ways. >> i want to bring in former speaker of the house nut gingrich. as we wait for chris christie to speak, rand paul tonight saying the republican party needs moderates like chris christie. chris christie telling our jake tapper today he is a good conservative. to you what is he? >> i think he's a reformer who
unequivocally, we're not talking about a shutdown nou. it's not a good thing. even nut gingrich, the architect of the shutdown in the '90s says it's not good. it makes one wonder are the others speaking in a set or tone that they can use as an option and that that would be disastrous for this country and the economy. >> i think if the cliff negotiations taught us anything, you can't listen to the hardline luster this early in the game. if you'll look at how close we came with the last stand off, everybody takes their hardlined positions. mcconnell is not going to go out there on the lamb and shut down these hard liners at this point. he's going to want to go in there with a strong of position as he can, making as big of
remember, it took two years to really orchestrate the removal of gingrich. the conservatives keep pushing. so why do you have the senate, who runs statewide, as krystal says, being a lot more moderate and few defections, you've got these congressman not only defecting, but, still, planning and plotting a coup on john minnesota. >> you know, what's interesting, reverend, is you played that clip earlier about them getting rid of the word lunatic. but there does appear to be a great deal of lunacy in the house. but if you look more closely at what's going on there, the problem with this is they're behaving in a perfectly rational way. you have the vast majority of members of the republican majority and a significant number of the democratic minority as well, are only, as krystal was saying, fearing
will the communities that are interested in immigration reform, will they cop together and not let the fall deaf ears that is the other he'd side of challenge. >> it is the other side of the challenge but one we are ready to meet, richard. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up later, are we on the verge of gun control, first, nut gingrich things he can do a couple things better that amitt romney. and that means running for president. my waist was on. but since i've been on alli, am i on this one? nope. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat.
>> we are back with speaker nut gingrich. current speaker of the house john boehner has written a letter to the president of the united states about libya. he has said among other things no one in the administration can substitute for his voice. he wishes he would tell us and congress and the american people what happened in libya. do you agree with the current speaker? >> i think speaker boehner has done something important thing. binge west is a remarkable marine recently wrote an article pointing out they had 7 hours to get forces to benghazi. they had a marine de patchment they had an f 18 unit in sicily. the marines could have gotten there in hours. do we keep the documents uncovered open to anybody?
>> we are back with speaker nut gingrich. current speaker of the house john boehner has written a letter to the president of the united states about libya. he has said among other things no one in the administration can substitute for his voice. he wishes he would tell us and congress and the american people what happened in libya. do you agree with the current speaker? >> i think speaker boehner has done something important thing. binge west is a remarkable marine recently wrote an article pointing out they had 7 hours to get forces to benghazi. they had a marine de patchment they had an f 18 unit in sicily. the marines could have gotten there in hours. do we keep the documents uncovered open to anybody?
manipulations in the oil markets without one sled of evidence. he has an entire administration to go after speculation or manipulation in the oil market. then they pick this student loan fight where there is no fight. the point i have been trying to make in the last couple of weeks is that the president is bigger than this. the presidency is important. america as big chag lengllengin fiscal challenges. he ought to be working with democrats and republicans on capitol hill to address the big issues that effect the american people. >> wouldn't it be nice if we could work together? an update reports that nut gingrich was meeting with mitt romney today. new chief spokesman hammond telling fox those reports are untrue and newt is not meeting with romney today. >> oo 37 minutes after the hour.