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the question is how you defeat them and elicit either petroandh states or dictatorships or shariae eek our law countries a the middle east, among muslim countries in afghanistan middlet going to be a petro state. so will it take a strongman? problem is , it's controlled by the taliban. and so whatever we can do to hold back isis, we should do. but trying to rebuild a nation in our image didn't work. >> and i think we should learn from that. right. the rare earth went rightis is to china the day we left, whicho made them feel as though't work. they dear, we loved they lovedt. us out of there. rth and now they're all in controlw of bagram to especially, i think you represents something that's underappreciatedeir own . what are the finest war fighting generations in our history? don't ever think you're not appreciated and let everybody know, especially memorial day just a few weeks away. thanks so much, pete. thank you , brother. >> all right. meanwhile, the medical establishment in the country has a new solution for obesity in children. it has nothing to do with exercise or eating. well, more on that story next.

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iraq and afghanistan. o pete, thisut shoul d not surprises any of us , should it? >> now, what do you think is going to happen? jihadists are going to carry out their . and when you embarrass, seemingly abandon a mission in a way that creates a void, they take advantage of it and lessen the war in afghanistan needed to end. i'm a recovering neocon mugged by reality. two things on jian be true at once. the courage ofha our war fightes on the ground was was amazing what i witnessed in iraq and afghanistan. but the fallout from thosene to. two nation building exercises was disastrous and on top of it, joe biden decided to leave without a plan, abandoned americans on the ground and handing our weapons to the taliban. what did we think would happen?o son as grresult, their fellow sunnis in isisou found their wa. to afghanistan, just like al qaedak we wou, and they're ge to seek our destruction continually. if it's so obviousy seek anstrs almost predictable, it's completelye. as i appreciate you've been there up close and personal. we always spar about this, but

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