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Wrote calling for universal health care saying that the idea that millions of americans live day-to-day in fear that an illness and injury will wipe out their savings and drag them into bankruptcy how can we engage in the pursuit of happiness as our founders intended. >> that was 17 years ago. >> but he has not said i was wrong. he never said that about anything. >> he said very recently he wants everyone covered. >> i mean look, the most consistent thing about donald trump from a policy perspective is how inconsistent he is. this is someone that was a democrat much of his life prior to runnin...

>> i don't believe there's any evidence of that either. is there? >> no. >> none. this has become -- i remember traveling the 2014 mid-term campaign, largely because of talk radio, not so much amplified by candidates. this time ob conservative radio and amplified by radio, isis effecting illegal immigrants and told to get on buses and subways and cough and spit at us. travel the country, people would repeat this. there's no evidence there are a wave of non-citizen illegal voting in the united states d. he mention north carolina at the end? >> yes. >> because they know they're going to lose nor...

And people can be scared by protests in general. absolutely. you can use that to scare people. particularly if police continue to use brutal tactics against the protesters. that, itself, can make the protesters seem scary. counterintuitively if police are beating people up and using pepper spray on people, it can make the people police are abusing seem like scary people. we've seen this before in the past. the idea here, the message the protests are promoting is not only a simple one to say, it's a simple one to understand. case in point, friday night's bill maher show on hbo experienced what ...